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3 mai 2010 à 0 h 35 min #265524
Nellie
MembreAs requested – photos of my new mount:
In case you’re wondering why it’s not done as your article recommends, e.g. using the first pair of holes in the plate and only the outer hole of the second pair at the front, it’s because the guy ‘helping’ me wanted to do it on his own, never read the article although I had printed it out for him, and did not listen to a single thing I had found out about mounting quads 😕 . I wanted the plates to be a bit more forwards as well (even if it wouldn’t have looked as good, because then they would have stuck out from under the boots at the front even more – my Starway plates are really long). Here’s me trying them out:
Indoors they feel nice :).
Thanks for all your help!!3 mai 2010 à 6 h 51 min #265525prosper4tie
MembrePlease detangle cables behind the tv !
Nice mount otherwise :p
3 mai 2010 à 9 h 38 min #265526Nellie
Membre@prosper4tie wrote:
Please detangle cables behind the tv !
😀 boyfriend’s room, so not my job 😀
@prosper4tie wrote:Nice mount otherwise :p
Thank you!!
3 mai 2010 à 11 h 03 min #265527Anonyme
InvitéNice, really nice. I’m happy to see that you succeeded !
I wish you really numerous nice hours of quadskating.3 mai 2010 à 11 h 11 min #265528Abi
MembreNice shoes! Your pair seems great.
I couldn’t easily skate with a so long plate, but you don’t seem to be embarrassed anyway. I supposed it must be the habit.
Wouldn’t be easier to slalom with smaller wheels ?
3 mai 2010 à 13 h 04 min #265529Nellie
Membre@abi wrote:
I couldn’t easily skate with a so long plate, but you don’t seem to be embarrassed anyway. I supposed it must be the habit.
Wouldn’t be easier to slalom with smaller wheels ?Thank you, Xavier and abi!! Well, these aren’t my slalom skates (I’ve ordered much shorter plates from Hawaiisurf for that, and I’m also using artistic boots and smaller wheels for slalom); they’re only for street skating. It’s just that you cannot do much apart from a one-cone-Crazy in a small room 🙂 .
3 mai 2010 à 18 h 41 min #265530Nellie
MembreWell, because the guy who mounted the skates for me had said mysterious things about holes yesterday, I had a look at their soles and this is what I found:
and from inside:
Can I skate in them like this or are they « dead », as Xavier’s beginning of the article on Colmat 2000 saysLors d’un montage quad, notamment sur une paire de basket, une fois que les trous sont faits, c’est « définitif » 🙁
Que se passe-t’il alors lorsqu’on s’est trompé ? Et là, je ne parle pas d’une grosse boulette, mais d’un écart compris entre 0 et 5mm.Normalement, soyons clair : c’est mort !
? Could I actually use some of this liquid rubber to repair the boots?
3 mai 2010 à 19 h 33 min #265531Anonyme
InvitéDamn !!!
who is the guy who mount your set up ?
If you’ve got some money, you’ve got 2 or 3 solutions :
1 – use liquid rubber, but, i’m not really sure of the result …
2 – place a metalic footprint of your sole between the rubber sole and the frame. check on the website and on the forum about ‘Dural’. In fact, it’s a home made metalic sole who provide more rigidity to your skate, but your setup’ weight will not be the same.
3 – replace the shoes :/ and kill the guy who mount your skates.3 mai 2010 à 21 h 29 min #265532Abi
Membre😯 😯 😯
Has he forgot his glasses ?You’d better find another tinker.. 😕
It’s a big error, but i don’t think it’s a fatal one. Your shoes must have loose something in rigidity, but the double holes seems to be made only on heel, where the sole is much thick. I suppose this wouldn’t affect to much your skating.
Indeed, Miesko has a good idea, if you can put an aluminium (Dural) sole, it would minimize the error.
4 mai 2010 à 22 h 02 min #265533Nellie
MembreHey, thanks Mieszko, your post really cheered me up yesterday!! I’m going to answer your questions: @Mieszko wrote:
Damn !!!
who is the guy who mount your set up ?Well, somebody I do slalom with, who takes particular care that every last tiny part of his (utterly superior, of course) inlines is 100% perfect before he himself skates :evil:. He even posts videos on all the brilliant improvements he made to his beloved Powerslide Evos. And no, abi, he doesn’t usually wear glasses, but I think he definitely SHOULD!
@Mieszko wrote:If you’ve got some money, you’ve got 2 or 3 solutions :
3 – replace the shoes :/ and kill the guy who mount your skates.😀 😀 😀 8) I’d love to choose this option, especially the last part.
No, seriously, thanks for all your ideas – I’ll think about what I’ll do with the boots. I’ve bought some Shoe Goo, because someone on the US forum recommended this and I saw his posts first (I couldn’t find liquid rubber in any small, reasonably cheap quantity here in Germany). If that won’t work, I might just toss the boots (or, more sensibly, try the ‘Dural’ sole solution), especially as I just had a very nice skate in my old Starway boots with some Crank straps added.
Oh, abi, this might not be visible in the pictures, but almost all of the holes are about four times the size of the screws, and the holes at the front of one of the boots are ‘double holes’ sitting right beside each other, forming big holes.4 mai 2010 à 22 h 08 min #265534Nellie
Membre@abi wrote:
😯 😯 😯
You’d better find another tinker.. 😕Definitely!! He’ll never get to touch any of my skates again, and most certainly not my new Lazer plates for slalom.
Thanks for your suggestions!!30 mai 2010 à 14 h 06 min #265535Nellie
MembreI found out that glueing the soles to my aluminium plates would not really work, so I’m just going to do a regular screw mount again.
However I filled all the holes with Shoe Goo yesterday, using a complete 3.7 oz tube, and leaving a small space for screws in the holes I’m still going to use.
This seems to have made the soles harder and more stable, so I think I’ll just screw mount without any extra plates inbetween and give it a try. I’ll let the glue cure for some more days before I do that, of course, and I’ll use different (very small) holes at the front.
You can see here how much of the stuff (= Phylon) from inside the sole was missing before, how big some of the holes were.
By the way: I do not really recommend buying shoes with Phylon soles to mount them on aluminum plates if you do not intend to put anything like a ‘Dural’ plate in between, simply because this material is very soft. However if you do, do NOT try to drill holes into them with an electric drill, do it by hand using just a nail and a screw like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Spax.jpg/800px-Spax.jpg30 mai 2010 à 14 h 54 min #265536imported_Nico
MembreWow, the guy really messed your shoes. OMFG!!! 😯
Luckily you could find some shoe goo, I think that it should solve the problem.
One tube should be enough, looooooooooool, they’re gonna be bomb-proof!!I think that this product has been forbiden in France. Can someone confirm?
About making holes in Phylon soles, I think that the best way to do them is to use a very hot screwdriver. It will melt the rubber a make really nice holes.
Have fun with your roller skates and let us know if they work fine. 😉
30 mai 2010 à 15 h 04 min #265537Nellie
MembreFrance has Allstargum, the same as Shoe Goo, allegedly, but without poisonous solvents. I’m quite surprised that we get Shoe Goo in Germany, seeing as we’re such a health conscious bunch 😉 . Yet, as I suspected it might not be the real stuff, I bought mine on eBay UK (it was also cheaper, even with the postage).
edited to add:
@Nico wrote:About making holes in Phylon soles, I think that the best way to do them is to use a very hot screwdriver. It will melt the rubber a make really nice holes.
Good idea!!
22 janvier 2011 à 12 h 17 min #265538Nellie
MembreI’ve now put new 140mm Playmaker plates on my Shoe-Goo-basketball-boots. My old Starway plates are going to go to a friend with size 44 feet. At 170mm they really were too long for me 😉 . Funnily enough I only noticed this after nine years and in comparison to my 140mm Lazer/Risport slalom skates.
Because of all the Shoe Goo in the soles I don’t seem to need any extra support (Dural) at the heels – they don’t seem to hang down over the plate:
I have not skated them outdoors yet, though, so maybe they won’t be stable enough after all. -
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